Dixon and Winterburn suggest Sagna should get his deal.

Come on Boss?
Come on Boss?

I am hoping to write something original on the Bacary Sagna contract saga armed with nothing but a personal view point and what I feel are some fairly relevant close to home economics and precedents. The personal aspect which I think goes for Arsenal fans is that I want him to stay in North London and the reason are obvious and have been covered by many observers I am sure.

In short however with the exception of a few months in 2012/13 he has been one of the most consistent Arsenal performers since he arrived in the summer of 2007. He has been one of our few world class players over the last 7 lean years and I would LOVE to see him win silverware with the Gunners. The evident flip side to that is I would be greatly disappointed to see such a loyal and fabulous servant and ambassador leave without a medal.

I wrote a year ago today (as I write) that like his peers Thuram and Abidal he could convert comfortably to the centre of our defence and whilst a few eyebrows were raised at the time it is not the perceived and accepted wisdom. I would certainly rather see Vermaelen depart then Sagna and if this happens as is being hinted, retaining the Frenchman seems more still more essential.

Our camp is split on Jenkinson, but I am as yet unconvinced he could step up and assist in a full push for honours. That is not to say I don’t rate him highly but he does not have the all round game of his mentor at present.

So when a player like Sagna says this: “I love Arsenal, I love playing for Arsenal, I love my team. Arsenal is the most followed team in France and I remember I used to watch them when I was in France so it was a pleasure to play for them, so why leave?  What exactly appears to be the issue and why do the odds suggest he will leave this Summer?

From what we all read it is the same old Wenger chestnut of not wishing to offer players over 30 a deal of more than 2 years in length, whilst the Bac apparently wants 3 and perhaps the wages allegedly that Sagna is reported to desire of £100k per week.

My own view is that we should do whatever we can to keep him but what I think is irrelevant. However I would like to throw in a few other discussion points which may change a few readers’ views one way or the other.

Firstly the basic economic picture which I have seen mentioned but I thought I might work through for myself. To do this I thought I would assess a few options that I have seen discussed and indeed that I have discussed myself. Again these are my estimates and by no means accurate but should be close enough.

 

Option Transfer Weekly wage Total Contract Cost
Sagna £ 0 £90,000 £3,240,000
Coleman £15,000,000 £60,000 £17,160,000
Clyne £8,000,000 £40,000 £9,440,000
Chambers £6,000,000 £40,000 £7,440,000

 

Gunners Choice?
Gunners Choice?

Now as I reiterate these are my best guesses but even if I am some way out the retention of Bacary Sagna makes perfect and logical sense financially.

So does the argument come back to whether he can retain his current former and fitness until he is 34 and 4 months old as he would be at the end of June 2017?

What none of us will know is the toll on his body the broken legs have had but given he is playing a well know as he was before either break we can only assume the best.

So we are back to the informed wisdom of Wenger, the Board or whoever is advising the Manager about the ability of full backs to perform at the top level well into their 30s. Of course I am no expert but have been told often of late that Wenger transformed the diet of Arsenal players and lengthened their careers and I have no reason to doubt this as many have testified to the same. But because I am indeed no expert I thought I would asks 2 old friends what they think.

They are experts and they will testify……..

Nutty
Nutty

Nigel Winterburn was 31 and 4 months in April 1994. How did you get on after that Nigel?

“Well Dave I am glad you asked me. I played 227 further competitive games for Arsenal, winning the Premiership at 35, along with the FA Cup. When I was 37 I played in the Cup Winners Cup Final for Arsenal. I was sad to leave the Gunners but I struggled through 94 more matches (sarcasm!!) at West Ham before I decided to hand my boots up at 39.”

Over 300 matches after the age of 31 year and 4 months is impressive and no mistake!

So armed with this information I asked his old mucker Lee Dixon whether he managed much beyond 31 and 4 months?

 

Mais Lee Vouz etes 31 et quatres mois  non?
Mais Lee Vouz etes 31 et quatres mois non?

 

“Happy to inform you and your readers Dave that I was that old just after the 1994/95 campaign and I forced my body through another 281 competitive matches for Arsenal, won 2 League and Cup Doubles and got Cup Winners Cup and FA Cup runners up medals before calling it at day 2 month after I turned 38 in 2002.”

So let me get this right in my mind Lee, Bacary Sagna has played 272 games in total for Arsenal in 7 years and you played more games than that after you were 31 and 4 months. Lee you were one crazy fit son of a bitch.

 “Thanks Dave”

Heh but Lee not as impressive when you consider old Nutty Winterburn played 321 matches after he was 31 years and 4 months. Guess he was even crazier and nuttier?

 “Well Dave he wasn’t given that nick name for nothing you know. There is no doubt Arsene Wenger helped us both to a degree but reality is that if you look after yourself and you have an astute football defenders brain you can play well into your 30’s at the very top.”

So Lee does Bacary Sagna have the right fitness and astute football defenders brain?

 “Dave you watch him week in week out, Do you really need to ask?”

Should Arsenal give him what he wants Lee?

“No Brainer as they say Davey boy”

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13 comments

  1. Haha! Intelligent read as always! Dave you’ve done it again! How I so wish Arsene could just listen… Sadly, his strength is his weakness- he is stubborn in his beliefs. Wenger won’t sign Sagna.

  2. The full back position is of significant importance in the modern day and the most important fact is to have real pace there for a player . Bacary Sagna is getting beaten by pace and movement and that is the only worry i have in offering him a 3 year deal. He definitely needs to stay and i think we should give him the money he asks for because he brings value to it.
    His attitude and commitment is never in question and more importantly i dont think so jenkinson is the answer if bacs leaves, jenko needs a lot more time.
    Give him a 2 seasons contract, i see him becoming a center back backup, buy a proper right back after one more season, send jenkinson on loan.

  3. Such a lovely article! Keeps me on the positive now when times are a bit challaging for a Arsenal and Sagna fan.

  4. Because comparing financial cost for ONE season will make buying anyone look worse than keeping Sagna for one year, despite it being common knowledge he wants more than one year and quite possibly a wage in excess of £100,000 per week.

    1. That was cost over a 3 year deal mate not one year and I am making an assumption that if he asks for £100k that is we gave him 3 years and not 2 he may compromise

  5. If we can I’d rather we get Coleman. Provides real attacking threat which is largely missing in this team at the moment. Plus is still young and we’ll have the right back position sewn up for years to come.

  6. There is no second opinion within arsenal fans in this matter as I think or I’d like to believe. To retain Sagna is absolute must for his experience, love of arsenal, and above all, consistency.
    Well written Davey boy!

  7. Personally i dont see any sense in letting Sagna go, he deserves that 3 year contract and a little more money, also when Vermaelen leaves this summer (and he will definately leave) wenger will surely buy a centre back (i think) but Sagna can be a 4th choice if you may and he would go on to mentor jenkinson to take over from him in which time jenko will be getting into his prime . Lastly i dont see where the misplaced mistrust of jenkinson is coming from, the lad is good, in fact very good as we saw early last year when Sagna was out and he was covering up, he did so pretty well he even had a call up by Hogson and actually played. he’ll be good for us thats’s why we dont need another young coleman to displace him but rather have someone like Sagna mentor him till he’s ready to take over. signing sagna is a win win situation both financial and football wise, ITS A NO BRAINER

  8. A good article and I could not agree more that on all counts loyalty, experience and worth to the team Sagna justifies special regard from Arsenal. There may be question marks over his speed although not too many from what I have seen this season but his football brain and commitment are both still outstanding. Also I believe his ability to cover particularly for Mertesecker at the back is invaluable.

    Perhaps however we should apply some intelligence and incentives to his wage packet. Why not firstly recognize his loyalty by giving him a signing on fee similar to that he would get if he moves as a free agent this summer.Then agree to pay him £80k per week for a two year contract with both parties able to seek a further year extension if Sagna has played more than 50 games. In addition to recognize actual use value give an £100k bonus for each 5 games played together with a further £100k for each 10 games played This equates to £110- £110k per week but gives Arsenal protection against both injury and/or serious loss of form.

    All this will only be seriously expensive if we continue to get outstanding performance and then of course it will be well worth it.

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